How you doing? What do you say
I buy you a cup of coffee? Yeah, sure. Let’s go.
Follow me. Seven years in Folsom. In the hole for three. McNeil before that. McNeil as tough as they say? You looking to become a penologist? You’re looking to go back?
You know, I chase down some crews… …guys just looking to fuck up,
get busted back. That you? You must’ve worked some dipshit crews. I worked all kinds. You see me doing thrill-seeking
liquor-store holdups… …with a “Born to Lose” tattoo
on my chest? No, I do not.
Right. I am never going back. Then don’t take down scores. I do what I do best, I take scores. You do what you do best,
trying to stop guys like me. So you never wanted a regular-type life? What the fuck is that?
Barbecues and ball games? Yeah. This regular-type life like your life?
My life? No, my life… No, my life’s a disaster zone. I got a stepdaughter so fucked up… …because her real father
is this large-type asshole. I got a wife. We’re passing each other
on the down slope of a marriage… …my third… …because I spend all my time
chasing guys like you around the block. That’s my life. A guy told me one time: “Don’t let yourself get attached
to anything… …you are not willing to walk out on
in 30 seconds flat… …if you feel the heat around the corner.” Now, if you’re on me,
and you gotta move when I move… …how do you expect to keep a…
A marriage? Well, that’s an interesting point. What are you, a monk?
I have a woman What do you tell her?
I tell her I’m a salesman So then, if you spot me coming
around that corner… …you’re just gonna walk out
on this woman? Not say goodbye? That’s the discipline. That’s pretty vacant, no? Yeah, it is what it is. It’s that, or we both better
go do something else, pal. I don’t know how to do anything else. Neither do I. – I don’t much want to either.
– Neither do I. You know, I have this,
uh, recurring dream. I’m sitting at this big banquet table… …and all the victims of all the murders
I ever worked are sitting at this table… …and they’re staring at me
with these black eyeballs… …because they got eight-ball hemorrhages
from the head wounds. And there they are,
these big balloon people… …because I found them two weeks
after they’d been under the bed. The neighbors reported the smell… …and there they are,
all of them just sitting there. What do they say? Nothing. No talk?
They don’t have anything to say. See, we just look at each other. They look at me.
And that’s it, that’s the dream. I have one where I’m drowning. And I gotta wake myself up
and start breathing, or I’ll die in my sleep. You know what that’s about? Yeah. Having enough time. Enough time to do what you wanna do?
That’s right. You doing it now?
No, not yet. You know, we’re sitting here… …you and I,
like a couple of regular fellows. You do what you do,
and I do what I gotta do. And now that we’ve been face to face… …if I’m there and I gotta put you away,
I won’t like it. But I’ll tell you… …if it’s between you
and some poor bastard… …whose wife you’re gonna
turn into a widow… …brother, you are going down. There’s a flip side to that coin. What if you do got me boxed in
and I gotta put you down? Because no matter what,
you will not get in my way. We’ve been face to face, yeah… …but I will not hesitate.
Not for a second. Maybe that’s the way it’ll be. Or who knows? Or maybe
we’ll never see each other again