>>>RIDING THE RAILS BOTH NEAR AND FAR, THAT’S NEXT ON “COLUMBUS NEIGHBORHOODS.” MM>>SUPPORT FOR “COLUMBUS NEIGHBORHOODS” IS PROVIDED BY –>>AT AMERICAN ELECTRIC POWER, WE’VE BEEN PROUD SPONSORS OF WOSU PUBLIC MEDIA FOR MANY YEARS, AND STRONG SUPPORTERS OF OUR HEADQUARTER CITY HERE IN COLUMBUS, BOTH DOWNTOWN AND IN NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE YOURS.>>STATE AUTO INSURANCE COMPANIES. SERVING CUSTOMERS AND COMMUNITIES FOR NEARLY A CENTURY. TODAY, A TECHNOLOGY IN TRANSFORMATION COMPANY. RISK TAKERS, CREATORS, INNOVATORS. A COMPANY DEFINED, NOT BY ITS HISTORY, BUT BY ITS PEOPLE. STATE AUTO. THE COLUMBUS FOUNDATION. SMART PHILANTHROPY FOR A SMART CITY. COLUMBUSFOUNDATION.ORG. BAILEY CAVALIERI. YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR LAW FIRM DOESN’T NEED TO BE COMPLICATED. IT’S JUST NEEDS TO BE RIGHT. COTA. KEEPS OUR COMMUNITY MOVING FORWARD. FAHLGREN MORTINE MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS. THINK WIDER. OHIO HEALTH FOCUSES ON YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WITH A MISSION TO IMPROVE THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITIES. AND BY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THESE AND OTHER COLUMBUS AREA FAMILIES, WHO SUPPORT WOSU. THANK YOU.>>>IN IT’S HEY DAY, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE BEEN HERE AT ANY TIME OF THE DAY OR NIGHT. WE’RE AT THE FORMER TOLEDO AND OHIO CENTRAL TRAIN DEPOT ON WEST BOARD. THE RAILROADS BOUGHT MORE THAN PEOPLE AND GOODS TO COLUMBUS, THEY ALSO BOUGHT JOBS. ONE INNOVATIVE RAILROAD COMPANY VITAL TO THE CITY’S EAST SIDE, WHERE YOU CAN STILL SEE SIGNS OF THE RALSTON STEEL CAR COMPANY. MM>>THERE’S SOMETHING KIND OF INTERESTING ABOUT WALKING ON OLD RAILROAD TRACKS. YOU’RE LOOKING AT THE WOODEN TIES AND JUST IMAGINING WHAT THE HUSTLE AND BUSTLE MUST HAVE BEEN LIKE AROUND HERE. THE REHRIG COMPANY STARTS ON THIS SITE, PROBABLY ABOUT THE LATE 1860’S AND THEY’RE MAKING THE GUN CARRIAGES FOR HEAVY WEAPONS THAT ARE GONNA BE USED IN THE SPANISH-AMERICAN WAR.>>AND A GENTLEMAN NAMED RALSTON CAME DOWN HERE FROM TORONTO AND BOUGHT THE REHRIG ENGINEERING COMPANY AND STARTED THE RALSTON STEEL CAR COMPANY AND ERECTED THIS BUILDING BEHIND US, 1910, 1915. MM>>THEY INVENTED THE COAL HOPPER. A HOPPER CAR IS A CAR BUILT IN TWO Vs AND THEY OPENED THE BOTTOM UP THE COAL FELL INTO THE COAL TRUCK. THEY ALSO BUILT GONDOLAS AND BOX CARS. THE FACTORY RUN FROM CASSIDY AVENUE EAST, ALL THE WAY TO JAMES ROAD.>>YOU THINK OF THE LEVEQUE TOWER AS BEING OVER A LITTLE OVER 555 FEET AND THIS IS 1,900 FEET, PERHAPS A LITTLE MORE. THIS IS LIKE THREE, ALMOST FOUR LAVEC TOWERS SIDE-TO-SIDE.>>THE RAILROAD INDUSTRY WAS JUMPING AND JIVING. THEY JUST COULDN’T BUILD ENOUGH CARS FOR PENNSYLVANIA, NEW YORK CENTRAL, B&O, C&O. THEY WERE ALL GIVING THEM ORDERS.>>THEY STARTED THE STEEL ON THIS END AND ABOUT 500 FEET IN AND THEY WERE LARGE BRIDGE CRANES INSIDE THAT WOULD TAKE THEM DOWN UNTIL THEY COULD GET THEM ON TRACKS. THERE WERE THREE TRACKS IN EACH GABLE, PRETTY MUCH MADE BY HAND AND THEY WERE DOING LIKE 19 A DAY.>>RALSTON MADE AS MANY AS 10,000 CARDS IN A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.>>I’M SURE THEY DID.>>WHAT’S INTERESTING IS THE RALSTON IS KIND OF STARTING UP ABOUT JUST AFTER THE TURN OF THE CENTURY, BUT BEFORE WORLD WAR I.>>RIGHT.>>AND SO, COLUMBUS AT THAT POINT IS ACTUALLY GETTING IMMIGRANTS AND THEIR LONGSTANDING GERMAN AND IRISH COMMUNITY. BUT, THEY’RE GETTING IN IMMIGRANTS FROM EASTERN EUROPE, FROM CENTRAL EUROPE. SO, THERE’S HUNGARIANS, AND POLES, AND CZECHS, AND SLAVS, AND SLOVENIANS, AND SLOVAKIANS.>>THAT’S RIGHT.>>AND AT THE SAME TIME IT’S THE GREAT MIGRATION FROM THE SOUTH, SO AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND THEY’RE ALL LOOKING FOR WORK.>>THIS WAS QUITE A BUSTLING INDUSTRIAL COMMUNITY. COMPANY HOUSES, COMPANY INFIRMARY, THEIR OWN POWER PLANT.>>A COMPANY TOWN IS REALLY WHERE THE DOMINANCE OF ONE, USUALLY MANUFACTURING INSTITUTION CONTROLS EVERYTHING. A LOT OF HOUSES ON 4TH AVENUE WERE OWNED BY RALSTON.>>FROM EARLY PHOTOGRAPHS, WE KNOW THAT RALSTON BUILT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF HOUSES. SOME WERE SMALL AND COTTAGES, SOME WERE TWO-STORY. GENERALLY THEY WERE ALWAYS FRAME. AND MOST OF THEM ACTUALLY WERE DEFINED BY STREET, BY LITTLE PICKET FENCES.>>WE LIVED IN A COMPANY HOUSE. EVERYBODY HAD AN OUTHOUSE. WE DIDN’T HAVE ANY ELECTRIC. WE HAD GAS LIGHTS. AND THAT’S THE WAY WE LIVED IN A COMPANY HOUSE.>>WHEN MY FATHER WAS LAID OFF FROM THE RAILROAD, HE WAS OFF WORK FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS. HE BOUGHT THE HOUSE FROM RALSTON FOR $1,500. AND THEY DEDUCTED THE MONTHLY PAYMENT FROM HIS PAY. WHEN HE WAS LAID OFF, THEY NEVER EVICTED ANYBODY. AND THEN, WHEN THEY GOT REHIRED, RALSTON, THEY WENT AHEAD AND LET HIM PICK UP THEIR PAYMENTS RIGHT WHERE THEY LEFT OFF. THEY DIDN’T HAVE THEM BACK ALL THE BACK DUES. NOBODY WAS EVICTED. TRY THAT TODAY.>>AS IMMIGRANT FAMILIES SETTLED INTO THEIR NEW EAST COLUMBUS LIFE, MANY PEOPLE MOVE AWAY FROM THE FACTORY WORK AND CREATE SMALL BUSINESSES, SUCH AS THE TARTLE FAMILY WHICH HAD IMMIGRATED FROM CZECHOSLOVAKIA. AND THE LISSKA FAMILY, WHO CAME FROM POLAND.>>SOMETIME IN 1937, DAD OPENED A GROCERY STORE. IT WAS CALLED THE EAST COLUMBUS MARKET AND IT WAS IN A STOREFRONT ON HALF OF THE BUILDING. THEY OPENED A BAR ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THEY KEPT THE GROCERY ON THE OTHER AND AFTER A COUPLE OF WEEKS, THE BAR MADE MORE MONEY THAN THE GROCERY STORE. THAT WAS THE END OF THE GROCERY.>>IT OPENED I’M ASSUMING AROUND 1935. IT FIRST SHOWS UP IN THE CITY DIRECTORY IN 1936. AND IT WAS CALLED NORTH BEXLEY VIEW INN. MY DAD PURCHASED IT FROM MY MOTHER AND MY AUNT AND RENAMED IN 1950 TO LISSKA BAR AND GRILL. AND, AS A KID WE ALWAYS CAME HERE AND WORKED ON SUNDAYS, CLEANING UP. YOU KNOW, AND TO GET OUT OF THAT JOB, I HAD TO GO TO UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT SO I DIDN’T HAVE TO WORK HERE. BUT, I GRADUATED THERE IN 1970 AND THEN I STARTED FULL TIME HERE AND THAT’S WHEN MY EDUCATION STARTED. WHEN YOU WORK BEHIND A BAR, YOU REALLY GET THE EDUCATION.>>WHEN EISENHOWER BECAME PRESIDENT, ALL THE EMPHASIS WAS PUT ON THE INTERSTATE HIGHWAYS. AND WHAT HAPPENED? THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY HOLLERED “HURRAH!” BUT, THE RAILROAD INDUSTRY WENT DOWNHILL AND RALSTON STEEL CAR COMPANY CLOSED UP. THE LAST ORDER RALSTON STEEL CAR COMPANY GOT WAS AN ORDER FOR FUNERAL CARS TO BRING BACK BODIES FROM WORLD WAR II FROM EUROPE. AND MY FATHER WAS ONE OF THE LAST FOUR PEOPLE TO LEAVE THAT FACTORY.>>SO, WHEN I THINK OF THIS AS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WERE WORKING, WE ARE TALKING THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE EMPLOYED HERE. DO YOU HAVE A SENSE AS TO WHEN RALSTON FINALLY WERE CLOSED, AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE WILL FIND OTHER MANUFACTURING JOBS, BUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE FIRST THINGS YOU SEE THAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD?>>BECAUSE THE MANUFACTURING PART OF IT WAS GONE, YOU STILL HAD A TENANT JUST DOWN THE TRACKS HERE, THE KROGER COMPANY, WHICH WAS GROWING QUITE A BIT. WE HAD BUILDINGS, SO THEY WAREHOUSED SOME ITEMS HERE. AND I DON’T KNOW WHEN MY EMPLOYER GOT THE IDEA TO DO THIRD PARTY WAREHOUSING. THAT’S WHAT HE STARTED BUILDING, WAREHOUSES, AND IT WAS JUST IN THAT PERIOD IN THE LATE ’50’S-EARLY ’60’S, DISTRIBUTION WAS BECOMING A LARGE BUSINESS HERE IN COLUMBUS. AND WE ARE KNOWN AS A DISTRIBUTION TOWN MORE THAN A MANUFACTURING TOWN.>>PEOPLE STARTED TO MOVE TO GAHANNA. THEY MOVED OUT IN THE OUTSKIRTS. THAT’S WHEN WE ALL GOT MARRIED AND EVERYBODY LEFT. IT WAS TIME FOR US TO MOVE ON.>>I BELIEVE IT IS IN THE SITUATION IT IS TODAY POSSIBLY BECAUSE THE 670 KIND OF DIVIDED THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN, RENTERS. I DON’T THINK MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND HERE OWN THEIR OWN HOUSE. SO, THEY DON’T TAKE OF IT. SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO BE TOLD TO CUT THE GRASS.>>THERE’S A LOT OF UNEMPLOYMENT NOW AND WELFARE IS A BIG PART OF IT. I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT HERE ARE ON GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE. DRUGS ARE A BIG PART. WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE, YOU’LL SEE SOMEONE ON THE CORNER BEGGING FOR MONEY. THEY COME IN AND WANT SOMETHING TO DRINK OR EAT. AS FAR AS I WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I CAN’T SAY IT WILL EVER HAPPEN IN MY LIFETIME. THERE’S JUST TOO MUCH APATHY. I ALSO BELONG TO THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND WE TRY TO HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS, BUT THAT’S HARD. AND WHEN WE DO HAVE A MEETING, OUT OF 4,000 PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE GET FIVE OR SIX PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR A MEETING. SO, IT’S SAME STORY WITH ANY ORGANIZATION, HOW DO YOU GET PEOPLE INVOLVED?>>I WOULD THINK THAT THE CITY WOULD BE MORE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING 5TH AVENUE BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO SAVE THE GATEWAY, THE 670 WHICH IS YOU KNOW, THE AIRPORT. I MEAN, WE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE COME HERE A YEAR AGO AND THEY GOOGLED IT ON THEIR PHONE AND FOUND THIS PLACE BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T WANT TO EAT AT THE AIRPORT.>>AND THE NEEDS TODAY, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW THE SCHOTTENSTEIN CORPORATION DEVELOPED THE AIR CENTER AND THE DSW’S DOWN THERE. AND THERE’S SOME GOVERNMENT OFFICES. THEY’RE OVER 500 PEOPLE EMPLOYED BY THE COMPANIES IN OUR PARK, SO THERE’S A LOT OF TRAFFIC. THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THIS AREA. WHAT WE LOOK AT AS MEMBERS OF THE BUSINESS AND CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS HERE, WELL, WHAT ABOUT IF WE HAD RESTAURANTS WHERE THEY COULD EAT, YOU KNOW, ON THE WAY IN –>>COLUMBUS DOES EAT.>>THAT’S RIGHT, YOU GOTTA EAT LUNCH. COLUMBUS DOES A GREAT JOB OF DEVELOPMENT PLANNING, DEVELOPING CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS. AND WE HAVE A PLAN. THERE’S BEEN A PLAN AND A STUDY OVER SEVERAL YEARS. THE CASSADY WILL BE WIDENED AND ROUNDABOUTS BE PUT IN. AND IT GOES ON NORTH IN TIME. WE WILL BE A SUPPORT AREA FOR EASTON, BEXLEY.>>WELL, WE HOPE THOSE RESTAURANTS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE POLISH AND HUNGARIAN CABBAGE ROLLS, MAKE THEIR APPEARANCE VERY SOON. AND OLD INDUSTRIAL SITES ARE SO ATTRACTIVE TO PEOPLE, SO DON’T OVERLOOK THE POSSIBILITY OF A RESTAURANT RIGHT HERE.>>THAT’S RIGHT.>>>FOR MANY YEARS, RAILWAYS WERE NOT ONLY THE MOST CONVENIENT WAYS TO MOVE FROM CITY-TO-CITY, THEY WERE THE BEST WAY TO MOVE WITHIN A CITY. COLUMBUS’ STREETCARS PROSPERED AS THE CITY GREW AND STREETCAR BARNS WERE STRATEGICALLY LOCATED TO SERVICE THEM. WE ASKED ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIAN JEFF DARBY TO TELL US ABOUT THESE REMARKABLE STRUCTURES.>>THE STREETCARS STARTED IN THE CITY OF THE CITY AND RADIATED OUT IN REALLY ALL DIRECTIONS TO HELP PEOPLE GET FROM THEIR HOMES TO THE INDUSTRIES, AND THE STORES, AND THE OTHER PLACES WHERE THEY WORKED. SO, AT ONE POINT EARLY IN THE 20TH CENTURY, YOU COULD LIVE ALMOST ANYWHERE IN THE CITY AND BE ONLY A SHORT WALK FROM A STREETCAR LINE THAT COULD TAKE YOU ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY. UNLIKE TODAY WHERE TRANSIT SYSTEMS ARE PUBLICLY OWNED AND OPERATED, THE STREETCAR COMPANIES WERE FOR-PROFIT COMPANIES. THEY WERE EXPECTED TO PAY THEIR WAY, PAY DIVIDENDS TO THEIR SHAREHOLDERS, PAY THEIR COSTS ALL OUT OF THE FARE BOX WITHOUT ANY KIND OF SUBSIDY. MM THERE’S NOT A LOT OF EVIDENCE LEFT WHERE THE STREETCARS RAN. YOU CAN DRIVE DOWN THE STREETS THAT HAD STREETCAR LINES, DOUBLE TRACK, SINGLE TRACK AND NOT SEE ANY EVIDENCE OF IT AT ALL. THE TROLLEY PULLS WERE GONE, THE RAILS HAVE BEEN PULLED UP. BUT THERE IS A — GERMAN VILLAGE ON MOHAWK STREET WHERE YOU CAN SORT OF READ A SHADOW OF THE PAST. IT’S THE CURVE ONTO MOHAWK STREET ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PARK WHERE THERE WAS AN EXTRA WIDE RADIUS IN THE CURVE SO THAT THE STREETCARS COULD MAKE THE CURVE. SO WHEN THE TRACKS CAME OUT IN THE 1950s, THE STREET WAS REPAVED IN THE CENTER PART AND EVIDENCE OF THE STREETCAR WAS LEFT. I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF A NICE DETAIL ON THE PART OF THE CITY TO PUT IN THE WHITE BRICKS DOWN THE CENTER. MM THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER STREETCAR ARTIFACTS, YOU MIGHT SAY, LEFT IN THE CITY. IN GERMAN VILLAGE AND RIGHT NEXT TO GERMAN VILLAGE, THERE ARE TWO SURVIVING CAR BARNS. ONE ACTUALLY WAS THE CAR BARN FOR THE HORSE CARS. AND IS NOW IN OFFICE USE KNOWN AS THE “OLD WORLD CENTER.” THE OTHER CAR BARN FRONTS ONTO HIGH STREET AND WAS FROM A LATER PERIOD, BUT BOTH WERE IN USE BY THE STREET RAILWAY COMPANY. ONCE PEOPLE BEGAN TO BUY AND DRIVE AUTOMOBILES AFTER ABOUT 1915 OR 1920, IT BECAME HARDER AND HARDER FOR THE STREETCAR COMPANIES TO STAY IN BUSINESS. TO ECONOMIZE, THEY STARTED SUBSTITUTING BUSES. COLUMBUS MADE A CHANGE TO ELECTRIC BUSES UNTIL THE MID 1960s AND USED THE SAME STREETCAR FACILITIES THAT THE ELECTRIC STREETCARS HAD USED, BUT THEY WERE ADAPTED FOR BUS MAINTENANCE INSTEAD. AND WE’RE HEADED OUT TO THE CAR BARNS THAT ARE STILL STANDING. THIS IS THE OAK AND KELTON CAR BARN COMPLEX. THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST, BEST PRESERVED COLLECTION OF BUILDINGS FROM THE STREETCAR PERIOD IN COLUMBUS. WE’RE LUCKY TO HAVE THEM WITH US; THAT THEY HAVEN’T DISAPPEARED. THIS IS NOT FANCY ARCHITECTURE HERE AT THE CAR BARNS BY ANY MEANS, BUT IT’S REALLY GOOD ARCHITECTURE. IT’S VERY FUNCTIONAL, EXTREMELY WELL BUILT, A SOLID STONE FOUNDATION, SOLID BRICK WALLS, BIG WINDOWS TO PROVIDE LIGHT. THESE ARE REALLY INTERESTING BUILDINGS. AND THERE WERE SEVERAL BUILDINGS IN THE COMPLEX. CAR BARNS, THERE WAS A PAINT SHOP, A LITTLE BUILDING FOR STORING OIL, AN OFFICE BUILDING. THERE WAS A FOUNDRY FOR POURING BRASS AND BRONZE PIECES. PEOPLE HAD TO KNOW ELECTRICITY. THESE THINGS RAN ON PROBABLY 600 VOLTS DIRECT CURRENT WHICH IS REALLY STRONG ELECTRICITY, SO PEOPLE HAD TO KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING HERE. TAKING CARE OF THE STREETCARS WAS VERY SKILLED OCCUPATION. THIS IS THE OFFICE BUILDING WHERE THE WHOLE COMPLEX WAS MANAGED. THERE WOULD BE RECORD KEEPING AND FARES WERE COUNTED HERE. SO, ONE OF THE BIG JOBS AT THE COMPLEX HERE WAS TO WRAP UP ALL THE COINS THAT CAME IN THE FARE BOX EVERY DAY. THERE WAS A POWER PLANT TO GENERATE ITS OWN POWER — STEAM, HEAT, ELECTRICITY. AND IT ALL TOOK PLACE RIGHT HERE AT THIS COMPLEX FOR MANY, MANY YEARS FROM THE LATE 19TH CENTURY WELL INTO THE 20TH CENTURY. COTA USED THE FACILITY FOR A LONG TIME AND MAINTAINED BUSES HERE, BUT MOVED TO MORE MODERN FACILITIES TO THEIR CENTRALIZED LOCATION ON MCKINELY AVENUE. SO, FACILITIES LIKE THIS JUST BECAME OUTMODED. THEY WEREN’T USEFUL ANYMORE. IT WAS SOLD PRIVATELY. AND WE’RE HOPING THIS COMPLEX WILL BE PRESERVED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN ITS CURRENT STATE. IT WOULD LEND ITSELF WELL TO ALL KINDS OF USES. WHAT THE CURRENT PLANNING IS, I CAN’T SAY FOR SURE, BUT WE CERTAINLY HOPE IT’S SOMETHING THAT WILL HAPPEN SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE. MM>>>PASSENGER TRAINS AND STREETCARS ARE LONG GONE HERE IN COLUMBUS, BUT MANY PEOPLE ARE STILL FASCINATED BY THEM. REAL FANS STUDY EVERY DETAIL OF DEPOTS LIKE THE ONE WE’RE IN TODAY. A HOT TOPIC OF CONVERSATION IS THE POSSIBLE RETURN OF RAIL TRAVEL — HOW VIABLE IS IT? WE HAD A RECENT CONVERSATION ABOUT ALL THIS INSIDE AN AUTHENTIC STREETCAR IN FRANKLINTON. MM>>WE’RE IN FRANKLINTON AT THE SPAGHETTI WAREHOUSE NEAR WEST BROAD STREET. THERE’S SPAGHETTI WITH ANY SAUCE YOU LIKE — MEATBALLS, MUSHROOMS, EVEN ONE WITH BEER AND CHILI. THERE HOUSE FAVORITE IS A 15 LAYER LASAGNA WITH NOODLES, PORK SAUSAGE, GROUND BEEF, ROMANO, RICOTTA, AND MOZZARELLA. IT’S HANDMADE FRESH EVERY DAY. TODAY, WE’RE TALKIN’ ABOUT STREETCARS WITH HISTORIAN STU NICHOLSON. PLUS A APARNA DIAL FROM THE CITY OF COLUMBUS IS HERE TO DISCUSS THE FUTURE OF TRANSPORTATION IN OUR CITY. NOW, STU, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON’T KNOW THAT COLUMBUS WAS KNOWN AS A RAILROAD TOWN. YOU KNOW, USING THE RAILROADS TO MOVE PEOPLE AND COAL. CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT?>>WELL, THE CITY REALLY GREW UP AROUND RAILROADS AS A HUB AND THEN, OF COURSE AS THE CITY ITSELF GREW, THEY STARTED OUT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING RAILS IN THE GROUND IN THE STREETS AND RUNNING HORSE CARS. THE HORSE CARS GAVE WAY TO ELECTRIC TROLLIES.>>AND THAT’S WHEN STREETCARS CAME ALONG?>>YEAH, AND MANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT IMMEDIATELY SURROUND DOWNTOWN GREW UP AS ESSENTIALLY STREETCAR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE ALSO HAD INTERURBAN CARS THAT RAN BETWEEN CITIES WHICH WAS ESSENTIALLY A LARGER TROLLEY. AT ONE POINT IN THE 1920s TO THE EARLY ’40s, WE HAD ONE OF THE MOST INTEGRATED TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS OF ANY STATE. IT’S GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN IN COLUMBUS AT SOME POINT. AND ACTUALLY I THINK WHAT WE’RE SEEING WITH THE ADVENT OF SMART COLUMBUS, I THINK IS PROBABLY GONNA HELP THAT ALONG AS WELL. SO, APARNA, WE’VE BEEN AWARDED THIS SMART CITY CHALLENGE GRANT. CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT IT?>>SURE. SO, BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2015, THE FEDERAL GOVERNEMENT, THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, HAS THIS BIG CHALLENGE FOR ALL MID-SIZED CITIES THEY SAID. AND THEY SAID WE WILL PLEDGE $40,000,000 TO ONE CITY TO HELP THEM ARTICULATE OR REALIZE WHAT THEIR OWN VISION IS. IS IT ENHANCE SAFETY FOR OUR CITIZENS? IS IT BETTER AIR QUALITY? IS IT LESS CONGESTION? SO, YOU NAME IT, RIGHT? SO, IMAGINE A WORLD IN WHICH CARS CAN TALK TO CARS. CAN YOU THINK ABOUT THE SAFETY BENEFITS IF A DRIVER COULD BE WARNED IF AN APPENDING CRASH AT AN INTERSECTION OR YOU GET A SIGNAL IN YOUR CAR THAT SAYS, “HEY, SLOWDOWN. THE WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH.”>>RIGHT, RIGHT.>>ON THE ROAD. OR THINK ABOUT ALL THE MOBILITY OPTIONS THAT OWNING A SMARTPHONE HAS OPENED UP FOR YOU.>>RIGHT.>>SO, HOW DO WE TAKE THOSE AND OPEN IT UP TO EVERYBODY AND THEN FURTHERMORE INSURE THAT IT’S CONNECTED TO SOMETHING LIKE HEALTHCARE AND INFANT MORTALITY. WE HAVE A LOT OF GOALS FOR THE PROGRAM AND ATOP MOST AMONG THEM IS AFFORDABLE LIABLE ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION SO THAT WE CAN OPEN UP THOSE LADDERS OF OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITIZENS WHETHER THAT’S JOBS OR HEALTHCARE, ACCESS TO FRESH FOOD.>>WELL, I HEAR YOU SAYING AWARENESS OF OPPORTUNITY ISN’T ENOUGH. IT’S ACCESS TO THAT OPPORTUNITY. PAINT A PICTURE FOR ME. WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION, RAILROADS, WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF COLUMBUS? WHAT DO YOU SEE OR DO YOU HOPE FOR?>>I THINK WE’RE LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD OR DOWN THE TRACKS OR DOWN THE BUS LINE OR WHEREVER TOWARDS A DAY WHERE YOU WILL BASICALLY HAVE THE FULL ARRAY OF TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS IN COLUMBUS. BOTH TO GET AROUND WITHIN COLUMBUS, BUT ALSO TO GET OUT OF COLUMBUS AND CONNECT WITH OTHER CITIES WHETHER IT’S IN A DRIVERLESS CAR ON A BUS REP, A TRANSIT LINE, STREETCAR, LIGHT RAIL, INTERCITY PASSENGER TRAIN — THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT I THINK ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. HOPEFULLY, SOME OF THEM IN MY LIFETIME ‘CAUSE I THINK I’VE BEEN WAITING WAY TOO LONG FOR SOME OF THIS TO –>>YOU DESERVE IT, RIGHT? [ LAUGHTER ]>>YES, DARN IT!>>WE HAVE FOUR YEARS WITH THE SMART CITY GRANT.>>SO, IT’S A FOUR YEAR GRANT.>>IT’S A FOUR YEAR GRANT.>>AND THEN WHAT GETS YOU EXCITED ABOUT THE SMART CITY GRANT AND WHAT ARE YOU HOPEFUL FOR?>>SO, FOR ME AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT’S NOT A TECHNOLOGY STORY, IT’S A HUMAN STORY.>>UH-HUH.>>IT’S REALLY ABOUT USING TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE LIVES BETTER, RIGHT? SO, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE DID WAS TO ACTUALLY REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. EVEN SAID, “WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES YOU ARE FACING?” HOW DO WE ADDRESS ALL OF THIS THROUGH WHAT SEEMS TO BE A TRANSPORTATION –>>RIGHT, RIGHT.>>IT’S ALL ABOUT OPENING UP THAT AFFORDABLE ACCESS TO ALL COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THAT OPENS UP ACCESS TO BETTER JOBS, BETTER SCHOOLS, BETTER HOUSING. AND THESE ARE ALL, I THINK, ESSENTIAL PILLARS OF THE AMERICAN DREAM.>>I TOTALLY AGREE. IT’S — WHAT PEOPLE FORGET WHEN TALK TRANSPORTATION, THEY TEND TO TALK MODES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WHAT THEY FORGET ABOUT THE MOST IS THAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS FREEDOM. AND MOBILITY IS THE ESSENCE OF THE FREEDOM THAT WE HAVE. WE LIVE IN A STATE WHERE ROUGHLY NINE PERCENT OF THE POPULATION DOES NOT DRIVE OR HAVE ACCESS TO A CAR. AND TO THE EXTENT THAT ANYONE OF US IS MADE LESS MOBILE BY WHATEVER OUR CIRCUMSTANCE, THEN WE’RE ALL LESS FREE.>>WELL, YOUR EXCITEMENT ABOUT THE FUTURE, AND STU, YOUR EXCITEMENT ABOUT THE PAST AND THE FUTURE HAS ME EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF COLUMBUS. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL SPENDIN’ TIME WITH ME AND SHARIN’ THIS GOOD MEAL WITH ME AS WELL. SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH.>>THANK YOU.>>IT WAS EXCELLENT.>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>GLAD TO BE A PART OF IT.>>>YOU CAN SEE THOUSANDS OF ARTIFACTS AND EXHIBITS AT THE OHIO HISTORY CONNECTION THAT TRANSPORT YOU TO ANOTHER TIME, BUT THERE’S ONE EXHIBIT THAT YOU CAN DO MORE THAN JUST SEE AND IT TRANSPORTS TOO OR DID IN ITS DAY. HERE’S ANOTHER EDITION OF “FROM THE VAULT.” MM>>HI, EMMY!>>HEY, BRENT!>>WELL, THIS IS A VERY MOVING EXHIBIT OR AN EXHIBIT ABOUT THE WAY WE USED TO MOVE IN COLUMBUS.>>IT IS. DO YOU WANNA COME ABOARD?>>IS THAT ALL RIGHT?>>THAT’S THE IDEA.>>OH, ANOTHER IMMERSIVE EXHIBIT, HUH?>>THAT’S RIGHT!>>OKAY, LET’S LOOK. MM SO, EMMY, THIS WAS USED IN COLUMBUS, BUT IT WASN’T MADE IN COLUMBUS, CORRECT?>>THAT’S RIGHT. IT WAS MADE BY THE JOHN STEPHENSON COMPANY IN NEW YORK.>>AND I FIND THAT INTERESTING BECAUSE WE HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT THE BUGGY WORKS THAT WERE GOING ON IN COLUMBUS ABOUT THAT TIME THAT THEY DIDN’T ACTUALLY MAKE THE STREETCAR HERE.>>YEAH, IT’S REALLY SURPRISING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, ACTUALLY.>>BUT I’M JUST AMAZED AT THE CRAFTSMANSHIP OF THIS. THE WOOD IS BEAUTIFUL. YOU CAN SEE THIS. IT’S KIND OF BANDED AND LAYERED AND STAINED. A LOT OF CARE WENT IN THIS. I MEAN, THEY DIDN’T JUST THROW THIS THING TOGETHER.>>YEAH, THERE WAS A LOT OF CARE AND DETAIL PUT INTO THESE OLD STREETCARS. WE REALLY TRY TO REPLICATE THAT LOOK WHEN WE RESTORED IT.>>YOU KNOW THE TERM “STRAPHANGER”?>>NO, I’M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT TERM.>>YEAH, THAT’S WHAT YOU CALL SOMEBODY WHO COMMUTED ON THE STREETCAR OF THE SUBWAY. THEY STILL USE THAT TERM. IT COMES FROM THE STRAP YOU USED TO HOLD ON. HERE ARE THE STRAPS; THEY’RE RIGHT HERE.>>SEE, YOU TAUGHT ME SOMETHIN’, BRENT. [ LAUGHTER ]>>SO, EMMY, THIS IS NOT A RECREATION, THIS IS THE REAL DEAL.>>THIS IS THE REAL DEAL, YEAH.>>AND IT WAS ACTUALLY USED IN COLUMBUS AND WHERE ELSE?>>YEAH, IT WAS USED IN COLUMBUS AND ALSO IN LANCASTER. IT BEGAN ITS LIFE AS HORSE-DRAWN STREETCAR FOR THE COLUMBUS CONSOLIDATED STREET RAILWAY. AND IT TOOK PASSENGERS ALONG MARKET STREET HERE IN COLUMBUS.>>WHAT HAPPENS BETWEEN 1937 AND THE 1990s WHEN YOU START THE RESTORATION? WHERE IS IT?>>IT WAS STORED IN CLOSED BARNS IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS. IT WAS ACTUALLY STORED IN REALLY GOOD CONDITIONS. IT PRESERVED A LOT OF THE ORIGINAL ELEMENTS OF THE STREETCAR, SO WHEN WE RECEIVED IT IN 1991, IT WAS IN GREAT SHAPE AND WE KIND OF STARTED FROM THERE.>>YEAH, IT REALLY IS BEAUTIFUL. AND IT’S RESTORED TO THE STATE OF THE STREETCAR DAYS, NOT THE ELECTRIFIED DAYS, RIGHT?>>THAT’S RIGHT. THAT’S RIGHT. IT WAS RESTORED TO THE ERA OF 1888 WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT AND USED HERE IN COLUMBUS.>>IS THIS REALLY THE COLOR IT WAS WHEN IT WAS IN SERVICE?>>IT IS! YEAH, IT WAS THIS BRIGHT GREEN COLOR. WE FOUND THAT OUT BY DOING A PAINT ANALYSIS WHERE WE SCRAPED OFF REMNANTS OF THE ORIGINAL PAINT AND WE LOOKED AT THEM UNDER THE MICROSCOPE. AND IN THAT PROCESS, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT LAYERS OF PAINT OVER THE YEARS AND WE DISCOVERED THIS BRIGHT GREEN COLOR.>>WELL, IT’S A FANTASTIC PIECE OF WORK AND THE PEOPLE LOVE SEEING IT WHEN THEY COME TO OHIO HISTORY CONNECTION. THANKS FOR SHOWING IT TO US.>>OH, THANKS FOR COMING!>>>THANKS FOR BEING WITH US. AND REMEMBER, YOU CAN CATCH ALL OF OUR EPISODES ON COLUMBUSNEIGHBORHOODS.ORG. PLUS SEE OUR STORIES ON THE WOSU MOBILE APP AND YOU CAN FOLLOW US FACEBOOK, TWITTER, AND INSTAGRAM. WE’LL SEE YOU BACK HERE NEXT WEEK ON “COLUMBUS NEIGHBORHOODS.” MM M ON THIS RUSTY OLD RAILCAR WITH GRAFFITI ON THE SIDE RODE THROUGH EVER BROKE DOWN STOCKYARD M M JUST TO WIN MY LIFE’S LONG ALL RIGHT M M I SEE NO — AND CHATTANOOGA TOO THERE AIN’T NOTHIN’ THIS OLD BOY CAN’T DO, CAN’T DO M M EXCEPT STEP BACK IN TIME AND SAVE YOU M>>Announcer: SUPPORT FOR “COLUMBUS NEIGHBORHOODS” IS PROVIDED BY –>>AT AMERICAN ELECTRIC POWER, WE’VE BEEN PROUD SPONSORS OF WOSU PUBLIC MEDIA FOR MANY YEARS, AND STRONG SUPPORTERS OF OUR HEADQUARTER CITY HERE IN COLUMBUS, BOTH DOWNTOWN AND IN NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE YOURS.>>STATE AUTO INSURANCE COMPANIES. SERVING CUSTOMERS AND COMMUNITIES FOR NEARLY A CENTURY. TODAY, A TECHNOLOGY IN TRANSFORMATION COMPANY. RISK TAKERS, CREATORS, INNOVATORS. A COMPANY DEFINED, NOT BY ITS HISTORY, BUT BY ITS PEOPLE. STATE AUTO. THE COLUMBUS FOUNDATION. SMART PHILANTHROPY FOR A SMART CITY. COLUMBUSFOUNDATION.ORG. BAILEY CAVALIERI. 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